Sunday, October 18, 2009

Why liberals think Republicans harbor racists

Again, because they do.

[Keith] Bardwell, a Republican, has served as justice of peace for 34 years.
At least, this time, Bobby Jindal is calling for Bardwell to resign.

Meanwhile, CNN won't mention Bardwell's party. Since this is about his official duties, there should be no excuse that this is a merely personal failing. Heck, he probably once was a Dixiecrat, but we pushed him out and he took refuge in the remaining national party that does harbor racists.

38 comments:

Steve Nichols said...

I can't speak for all "Liberals", as some apparently feel qualified to do, but after checking Websters definition of political "conservative", it's going to be quite the uphill battle to convince anyone (that thinks for themselves) otherwise.

Givemeabreak said...

Kudos for the judge! Finally, a judge with a backbone. Interacial marriages should not take place. Period. Hope the jusge stays in his seat and shame on Jindal.....I thought he was a Conservative.

lovable liberal said...

I don't think Givemeabreak and his racist ilk should reproduce. Unfortunately, they do.

They must really feel like idiots now that the child of an interracial marriage has grown up to be our President.

Givemeabreak said...

Unfortunaltey, the liberals have decided that the words "Acceptance" and "Tolerance" have the same meaning. I will never "Accept" the murder of innocent babies, homosexuality, interacial marriages. I have friends that are gay, black and are liberal. They know that I don't approve of their lifestyle. I tolerate it and them. I pray for them often that they will see the error of their ways. The Bible gives us the word of God and how we should live our lives, not how we should see fit. As for Obama, I know that he is proud of his heritage. His grandparents loved him even though he is only half white. I commend them for that love. He is still a human being and deserves love and respect as such. It is historic to see the first half-black president. No doubt. Sadly, it had to be a liberal to make this historic mark. Perhaps in the future a well rounded Christian black Republican will become the first full Black president. Time will tell.

lovable liberal said...

Now that it's convenient for you to claim that President Obama is not black, you racists have given up the one-drop theory of blackness. Nearly all American blacks have substantial European genetic heritage. What you want to return to is the status quo before the civil rights movement, when open white racists claimed they didn't want to "mongrelize" the races. Since Africans had already been mongrelized by their white masters, what the racists really wanted was to keep African genes out of their white families.

You're still clothing your bigotry in Christianity. Don't worry, there's a long history of people like you justifying whatever they prefer as god's will. That's how the Confederacy justified slavery.

Scott said...

I am a white conservative Republican, and I disagree with everyone who has posted so far. First of all, I might remind lovable liberal that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, so calling us the party of racists is ignorant of our history. In fact, it was mostly southern Democrats that perpetrated segregationist policies. It is liberal Democrats who continue to enslave minorities today, keeping them at the teat of the government instead of learning how to take control of their own destiny. Liberals continue to focus on people by using labels and groups instead of thinking of them as people. Givemeabreak, the Bible does address interracial marriage - it's in the book of 2nd Opinions. I'm sorry, but that's just your own prejedice showing. It's a lie that has been passed on down in the south for generations. The Bible does say don't be unequally yoked, but that refers to marrying someone whose religeious beliefes differ from your own. I have many friends of multiple ethnicities, some in interracial marriages, and they are not violating anything God commanded. You know, God created men and women of different ethnicities with reproductive parts that work with each other, so I can't see how He didn't intend for them to marry. The only differences between "races" is skin pigment. Our bodies work the same otherwise. Please stop giving Republican Conservative Christians a black eye with your prejudice. Unless you're a troll. Then you can do whatever you want, because this is the only rise you're going to get out of me.

Givemeabreak said...

President Obama is half black, no question. Whether his roots can be traced to Africa has no bearing. I have black friends that find it appaliing to call them African American. It offensive to them. Some folks are honored by their African heritage. What happened to them was appaling. WE can never forget that. We also have to get out of this notion that all Blacks are deserving of something from all whites. Martin Luther King would be appaled today at the rederic that is touted from the likes of Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton. He would also be angry at affirmitave action. Totally against what he fought for and dies for. As far as the Confederacy, the Demorcrats was the party that fought for slavery and Republicans (Abraham Lincoln) that fought for their freedom. Once the black community realizes that the liberals (Democrats) only want to keep them in the ghettos and just send them a check, we as a country will be able to move on. Can you say ACORN? As far as my Christian bigotry goes, I cannot deny what Holy scripture teaches. To go against it is well.....liberal.
Good luck in your blog. It is one more example of our country's slide to immorality due to liberalism. I pray that one day you see the light. God Bless you.

pisces60 said...

I have a problem with revisionist historians. Yes, it is true lincoln's Republicans were for the liberation of slaves but do not equate that with wanting equal treatment. Remember, Lincoln said if he could save the union with the release of 'one' slave he would. None, he would. After the Civil War, yes, republicans, again, tried to help freed slaves ....UNTIL, they needed votes to get elected to national offices. Then, they threw it, equality, rights and sanctity of life under the bus. The took away newly given rights and ushered in the 'jim crow' era. The democrats to whom you refer? They became dixie-crats and became republicans because they were against, equality, integration, voting rights, lie, liberty, period, for negroes. Strom Thrumond and Jessie Helms, ring a bell? As for your dim-witted sterotypes of my people. I am the oldest of 5 girls. Born to parents who were married 56 yrs before my dad's death six years ago. No teen pregnancies. No criminals. No ddrugs or drunks. There are 7 grand children. Two of whom are boys. Both married with their own homes. One has children by his wife and no others. My son is married but he and his wife have none. He's 36. The rest are girls. Only one of whom is married and has children. Two are still in school. We have degrees from in progess to Masters. My husband and I would have been married 38 yrs this year if not for his death. We did not grow up in suburbia and you can bet when I graduated in 1967, it was affirmative i could not go to over half the colleges in this country and it had nothing to do with grades. Just race.

Givemeabreak said...

Robert Byrd or Ike Brown ring a bell? You may not have been able to go to college, a tradegy for sure, but your younger family can and should. As mine will. The college degree that they will get ,hopefully, will get them a good job in the field that they love. There should not be a "special section" just for one reace or the othe. Affirmitive action is racism at it's purist. Until we stop playing the race card , either black or white, we won't as a country move on. My kids intereact with blacks, latinos as just regular kids. My 9 year old can't imagine what segregation or racism really is. He will I'm sure as he gets older. Let's get off this race baiting and hate mongering we have in the country that is perpetuated by BOTH parties.

lovable liberal said...

Abe Lincoln was, for his time, a liberal. By now, liberalism on race has changed parties.

lovable liberal said...

One more thing, Scott: It's pretty damn funny that your defense against the charge of being the party of racists has been dead for more than 150 years.

I could say that you're ignorant of your party's present, but it's obvious that you aren't. You use all the current weaselly Republican excuses for why actually helping underrepresented minorities is bad, the excuses that allow you to assuage your conscience - short of actually helping someone else. You may claim it's tough love, when actually it's tough shit.

At least you're trying to hold your racist party-mate to a higher standard...

pisces60 said...

I never said I did not go to college. I did. My 4 sisters did. In fact, one sister who became a school teacher or English and French, spent her summers at Case Western Reserve University and was offered a full scholarship. She chose to go down state to Wilmington on a full scholarship. Our children 5 of 7 did or are going to college. The last two are still in high school. My point is, there has always been affirmative action. There has always been quotas of some type. I do no agree with them. I don't need to go to school with you to learn, neither did my children nor do my grandchildren. Yet, think of it, if the deliberate separation of the races had never been perptrated, where would we be, today. Not recognizing does not help, either. The blame game is not my intent. My parents did not raise victims but if I see the problem, I will face it. Do not blame a party or a person. Blame situations. I vote democrat. i will vote republican where I deem it the best person for the job. I am liberal to moderate. I may have conservative ideas on some things like having 10 babies by 10 men and expecting you and I to take care of them.
My grandson is 7. He is a second grader. He was tested, at 6, to read and comprehend on an 8th grade level. He reads Harry Potter. His vocabulary has been tested at 8th grade+. His IQ is 115 and just scoring above average in math brought that down. He goes to school with all black kids. He is hit because he is so bright. I am not taking up for affirmative action which I read as an insult. The white man made these impossible rules and then when they are thrown back at them, you run and scream reverse racism. You always speak of affirmative action yet, as usual, when the rich white man screws you over, you are deafening silent. If you have 4 seats available in a law school, at leat 2 to 3 of those seats will go to the rich white man's child who endows that college, even when they do not qualify academically. Yet, you say not a word. No complaint. That is what makes it disingenious.

lovable liberal said...

Let's get off this race baiting and hate mongering we have in the country that is perpetuated by BOTH parties.

Funny, we're talking about racism, Giveme, because you defended a racist JP in Louisiana who refused to license an interracial couple for marriage. You even said you agreed with him.

Now you don't want to talk about race. In my experience, racists are the most sensitive about being called racists. Guilty conscience, I guess...

Deer Crusher said...

Sorry people but racism no longer exists in America. There is a black President from a black, racist church, from a black country with a foreign religion and a Communist agenda. I see no "status quo" administration within a million miles. Shut up already with the "racism" all you liberals. The horse is DEAD already!

lovable liberal said...

DC is back with another nonsensical comment. There are several instances of racist comments in this thread, not to mention the original CNN story.

Progress does not equal completion. Even a 5-year-old knows that.

pisces60 said...

DC--Name says it all, I guess. name one white person lynched or roasted alive because of what Rev Wright said. It is called freedom of speech. Deal with it. White churches, including the Mormon church, have preached segregation, hatred, predjudice from day one. The mormon church has taught and believed blacks are meant to be white people's servants even after death. Why aren't they racists? Last time I looked, no black church every killed women because they said they were witches, did they? Oh, I forgot, you have freedom of speech, don't you? There is an inbred white minister preaching this same ideology, now. Why not speak of him? Oh, that's right he has freedom of speech like the banshee nation of idiots during the town meetings. There is not now nor ever has been a communist agenda, except when it suited your purposes. Foreign religion? It is older than the majority of Christian denominations. Your whole idiot rant is proof positive racism is alive and well in America. My parents said it best, the hen that cackles the loudest, laid it. To paraphrase Shakespeare, you protest too much.

Deer Crusher said...

A supposedly intelligent person once claimed that blacks are at least as intelligent as whites because they are so ‘innovative.’ His example was that blacks would take an old steel oil-drum (which whites considered to be rubbish) and turn it into something useful – a steel drum. Leaving aside whether or not a steel-drum band of muds is, in any way, shape or form, ‘useful,’ let’s look at his argument.
The white man had made the steel oil-drum as a means of transporting oil around the world. This involved creating an industrial technology, and developing mining industry to a point where oil wells could be sunk in the North Sea (or Gulf of Mexico), and crude oil successfully removed. Then a world-wide trading network had to be established. Let us gloss over the need for international economic transactions, international credit and banking, electronic money transfers, telephonic and satellite communications, and the stable economies and governments needed to make this possible.
Instead, let’s look at the need to produce oil tankers to transport the oil. The need for computers to navigate the ships, the level of technology needed to produce the ships, the schools needed to educate those who will serve on the ships, the engineering skills and training for those making them.
Let us now think about the products kept going by the oil. The plastics, the chemicals, the cars, and so on. And all this on a world-wide scale, over generations. And we haven’t even touched on road and rail systems, intensive farming and refrigeration to feed those in the industrialized cities, the factories, the building trade, power generation, written and computerized record keeping, or a thousand and one other things, all associated with the world oil production and trade.
And of all this, the oil drum is a minor by-product, a practical but simple and fairly primitive form of storage whilst in temporary transit.
And if, by some chance or accident, one of these oil drums washes up on the shore of dusky Africa, what do the native inhabitants do? Use it in their own oil industry? No. Use it as a spring-board towards future development? No. They turn it upside-down and hit it with sticks! Call me pedantic, but that doesn’t make them my equal. Not one of the dozens of items I listed above has appeared in Africa, ever. Not even writing. A continent surrounded by ocean, watered by massive lakes and rivers, and the black natives never dreamt a sail. Thousands of miles of flat grasslands, and they never fashioned a wheel, nor domesticated animals. Surrounded by stone, they never constructed a building better than a hut. Acres of diamonds and the world’s largest gold fields, and they never glanced at them until shown their beauty by white men. And all this for tens of thousands of years, thousands of generations living with no change, no progress. But they are our equal.

pisces60 said...

Wow, you put oil to use. Wow, I am flabbergasted. Africans ahve done nothing? It goes to show how little you know of the 'dark continent', doesn't it. I will start with one 'EMPIRE'. It was around when you and yours were stumbling around in the dark ages giving each other diseases, killing each other over religious differences. Invading the holy land as if it were yours and killing her occupants, Muslim, Jew and Christian, alike. You didn't bathe and you were lice infested beyond all reason. Let us speak of Mali, shall we. Her power and wealth was more than your people could imagine at that time. Let's face it, Richard Plantagenet(the Lion Hearted) could not repay jews for borrowed money to invade the holy land and his knights massacred the jewish quarter. I digress, sorry. King Musa of the Songhai Empire who, 17 yrs after ascending the throne made a Hajj to Mecca. He had 60,000 men with him. He had 80 camels laden with 300 lbs of gold each(not a white man in sight to show him how to mine it, either) Precious jewels(ditto). This was a purely black, African culture. They were dressed in silk and brocades. 12 yrs after the his trip, Cairo and Mecca still felt the affects of the money spent. He also built a univerity. The University of Sankore. In the 1300's, no less, when you and yours could not read a thought. It was considered the seat of education and learning @ Timbuktu. People came from all over to study, discuss, learn. That's one. Go to the others Lunda, Matapa, Ghana, Morocco, Karem Bornu, etc. You may learn something but then again you would need a brain not steeped in oil, wouldn't you?

lovable liberal said...

White boy Deersquasher must be so proud of his race. After all, white people are by far the best mass murderers. We've got both Hitler and Stalin. We've got Castro (who's really a piker, but the Deersquasher wingnuts of the world don't think so). We've got the enslavers of Africa. We've got all kinds of other war-makers, sometimes justly but often not. We did WWI essentially all by our selves. What a race!

After all, if Deersquasher is going to take credit for the accomplishments of other people whose only relationship is the color of their skin, he's going to have to take the blame for all the evil. So I guess his ideological obligation is to sentence himself to death for "his" crimes and carry out the sentence. I've heard from previous bullshit postings of his that he's armed. So, D, hypocrite or not?

By the way, your argument attacks a completely ridiculous straw man and has no value. None. It's looking up at bullshit. At least bullshit can be composted. Your posting is too poisonous for even that.

You think there's no racism left in America. Look in the mirror.

lovable liberal said...

My parents said it best, the hen that cackles the loudest, laid it.

I love this, pisces60. My own parents or grandparents could have said this.

Deer Crusher said...
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lovable liberal said...

OK, you thoroughly and irredeemably racist asshole Deercrusher, I draw the line there. You're banned. Don't come back.

Deer Crusher said...
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lovable liberal said...

So I've heard from an Aryan asshole named Deer Crusher and deleted his stupid post. Again.

lovable liberal said...

I guess he is proud of Hitler. Loser.

pisces60 said...

Aryans are people we consider Persian or Irani and they are not white. That nut job in Germany led most of you idiots down the garden path and you are still eating the peyote, smoking the weed. He was a dimwitted idiot as you are, apparently. Taught anyone. You taught no one. The nordics pillaged, raped and destroyed. They invaded more advance civilizations such as England. You discovered nothing. You were too busy getting to Valhalla in a burning boat, bear baiting, etc. You had to trade UP to get anything worthy, i.e. China, England, Africa, etc. You had nothing but war mongering and have taken it to new heights.
The cultures to which you refer may have been dying but it was theirs. Not yours. They did not need you nor want you. God? You were the devil incarnate. There was no poverty. Little disease if any. 100 years after captain Cook 'discovered' the Sandwich Island, over half the population was dead from your filthy diseases. The 'Hawaiians' did not need you. You even lied and stole their country. The native Hawaiians voted against annexation. White men hid the petitions, lied, took the islands, deposed their true leader and made her the 50th state. The petitions are in a glass case, as proof, in front of the capital building. Within 100 years, a culture with no written language had a literacy rate of 99.9%, in the 1800's when most of you could not read anything, including most plantation owners who could barely do more than sign their names to any document. No wonder they did not want us to have any education. As for Haiti, tell the whole story. Tell of the heinous treatment of the slaves. Rapes. Murders. Mutilations. You name it. they got tired. Pay back is a mother and they had no more of an extensive sewage system than London at the same time or Paris. tell that lie to people who do not know any history. Emptying your chamber pot out of the upstairs window on the walking publick may mean extensive modern sewage system to you but it ain't Rome with her System which still works, today.

Givemeabreak said...
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lovable liberal said...

I'm just not going to permit Deer Crusher to post his Turner Diaries bullshit here.

And, Gimme, if you don't like it, if you want to defend the Aryan punk, you can lump it. Or I can ban you, too.

Deer Crusher said...
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pisces60 said...

DC--You have no valid points. Civilizations in the subsaharan were as advanced. Since dynasties of the Egyptian cultures were led by Sudanese(Nubians). Someone thought enough of them to right an opera, Aida. Nubian princess. As for the european influence, again, egypt. it is simply amazing how she survived 4,000 years as a dominate culture to the point she is held in awe today, yet it took Alexander the Great, a white man since he was Greek, to put his people on the throne, the Ptolemey's and it died. The last pharoah was Cleopatra. So much for your influence. Every place you set foot to 'colonize' has brought nothing but war, disease, hatred, intolerance. The Ottoman Turks almost ran you over completely. The problems in Serbia, Kosovo and other places stems from those times. But you got that oil, don't you? Can't drink the water, breath the air, add pollution you can do.

lovable liberal said...

Pisces60, I know you've been provoked, but you're going a bit too far.

Pestilence and destruction are the attributes of all dominant human cultures, as are building and great works. We humans are not a pacific species, and that doesn't divide along skin color lines.

pisces60 said...

LL and you are. Some people understand nothing unless it is specifically spelled out. I have a feeling he can't spell. I know the difference. I love different cultures and learning of them but i have heard, for so long, that mine has contributed nothing. When you look or listen to the way this president is treated by his ilk, you literally see red.
I am an anglophile. I love British history and literature. by the same token, I love to study the Civil War, also. Yet, i can distance who I am from the subject matter. If i post anything, I make sure it is a fact. I may step on toes but I will not be disingenious, either.
As a Pisces, I don't know if you make stock of signs, I am the most understanding, open minded peron on the planet but you anger me and I will rip your throat out and will feel badly about it, later. I try to be careful. Sometimes careful doesn't cut it. I do not consider this person as part of the whole any more than the Nazis were a part of civil society.

pisces60 said...

LL--One last. I did not make it a color/race issue. It has been there since I could fill out a form. It not only asks for race but then sub-divide on ethnicity. if you read ancient texts, you do not see this 'racial divide', The people are described by country of origin.
When the first europeans used the rosetta stone to read the Egyptian Heiroglyphics, they deliberately misread them to make us slaves, even in the ancient world. Later translations changed that.
I value people and cultures. I have read omar Kayyam. I do not dislike a people because of their difference. I embrace it. My 7 yr old grandson and his 3 yr old sister are learning chinese. People I work with are helping us. My nieces are teaching themselves japanese along with writing in the language. They are 15 and 13 and honor students. Mys sister gets help from her japanese co-workers.
At 60, I just have no tolerance for idiots.

lovable liberal said...

(Pisces60, I've turned on comment moderation since the Aryan dipshit Deersucker wouldn't go away after I showed him the door. Be patient and your comments will appear.)

I hear you about not tolerating idiots, hence my banning DC and my threat to ban Gimme. (And if you have a little outrage to spare, google "Deer Crusher". He's just as far out there in neo-Nazi land as he seems. Imagine, an avowed racist claiming that racism is finished! Like that ever happens... Heh.)

I'm sure DC is all offended now and thinks you're a reverse racist. Probably thinks that about me, too, though he'd accuse me of being a race traitor deep in liberal guilt. Whatever.

This, of course, is what unrepentant white racists do. After claiming up and down that they're not racists, when you show them their own racism, they still deny it, but they try to distract by accusing you of being racist for noticing race. (As you said, you didn't start that.) Or for saying something, anything that casts them in a bad light. Or for quoting them when they don't want to be quoted. They don't make sense; they just keep spewing bile.

My caution to you is that you've made some broad statements about Europeans. They're not the whole picture by any means, but I understand their context.

Just as an example: Europeans in America reinvented democracy in a way that's good, that has been good for the world.

Those Europeans, of course, couldn't live up to their own principles, and Africans suffered for it. Hence I make a practice of calling the birth pangs of the U.S. Constitution the so-called Great Compromise or the "Great" Compromise or something that recognizes the lessons of history. Big Unprincipled Compromise would be more like it.

That's not by any means the hagiographic picture of early (white) Americans always being good - the picture that conservatives want to teach in school. The truth is nuanced, filled with failure, human but still aspirational. What the Founders did still held the seeds of eventual justice, for which your people waited too long while at least some of my people owned them.

I'm not tainted by my ancestors - or my cousins - any more than by my race. I also don't get credit for what they did or do. I'm responsible for what I do.

pisces60 said...

I whole heartedly agree. One thing i found out as an adult was the name calling out there for white people by white people. It is mind boggling. Our youngest daughter, now 29, when in her senior year of high school had to take a diversity class. That's where she learned of the many unflattering names used between whites and their cultures. There was a young lady of Polish decent who cried because of the names they were called. Here, in Cleveland, I hear such insults for the west side by east side whites. The name calling was not in my parents house nor mine, so when I hear it I can't believe it.
I have another pen pal friend, the editor of the local newspaper. He took offense with me when I said the constitution was a living document. That really make him angry and he said it was etched in stone. i told him, no. The communist manifesto, Nazi credo, etc., they wer etched in stone because if anyone tried to modify or change they were executed, exiled for the temerity. Yet, with the contstitution, you see something wrong you 'amend' it. Only a living document can be adjusted to rectify wrongs or validate a point more clearly.

Givemeabreak said...

Wow, the Fairness Doctrine on a Blog....probably ban Sean Hannity wwouldn't you? Free Speech my friend and freedom for us to agree to disagree. That's all.

lovable liberal said...

For all the stupid people: Free speech doesn't mean you can say anything you want any time you want. It means the government can't restrict your speech. Do I look like the government to you?

I have no obligation whatsoever to have comments at all. Many conservative blogs don't.

I have comments, and I retain the right to remove anything I want. In this case, Deer Crusher got even more offensive than usual, so I banned his borderline neo-Nazi ass.

Since you're an open racist, Gimme, you're close too. If Sean Hannity wants to show up here and add destructive racism, yeah, I wouldn't hesitate to ban his stupidity, too.

lovable liberal said...

Hey, pisces60, are you still out there reading?