tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post1723443603980589269..comments2024-03-04T11:41:37.259-05:00Comments on lovable liberal: Torture for politicslovable liberalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-21027650633031907432009-05-13T16:32:00.000-04:002009-05-13T16:32:00.000-04:00Now you're arguing for transparency! Welcome to t...<I>Now</I> you're arguing for transparency! Welcome to the light side.lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-69554506086612129622009-05-13T14:13:00.000-04:002009-05-13T14:13:00.000-04:00Whoops, the glass emptied again.
Always an expira...Whoops, the <A HREF="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/13/white-house-obama-release-photos-detainee-abuse/" REL="nofollow">glass emptied again</A>.<br /> Always an expiration date on Obama's promises.globeisatrocioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10920803265187006386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-24092241807501996572009-04-25T11:00:00.000-04:002009-04-25T11:00:00.000-04:00Self-pitying victimhood, so often ascribed by cons...Self-pitying victimhood, so often ascribed by conservatives to liberals, is more often a trait of conservatives. <I>Now</I> you're worried about <I>ad hominem</I> attacks, but you're the one who started with "the One" and "screaming caged monkees [sic]". <br /><br />Your inability to see the log in your own eye suggests either insincerity or lack of basic moral development, to wit the ability to apply the golden rule.<br /><br />Further, I attacked what you said. I didn't even call you dumb, just your statement.lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-40474826349466136922009-04-25T08:30:00.000-04:002009-04-25T08:30:00.000-04:00Liberal trait #2: To insult those you disagree wit...Liberal trait #2: To insult those you disagree with. Ad hominems, appeal to authority, etc. <br /><br />Cheney said Obama is making us less safe. Biden makes idiot of self on Larry King (? - but who cares). Obama attacks this now-powerless ex-VP and releases redacted memos. Cheney doubles down by demanding that we see the fruits of the coercion, not just the legal opinion of how the coercion is to be instituted, detailed in the redacted parts. And the non-sequitur that satisfies the Kool-Aid drinkers ("wildly better" = first prize for Sulli-istic use of adverbs): Obama releases pictures of prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan.flymorgue2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10562949312523535811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-10416232318469157852009-04-25T00:02:00.000-04:002009-04-25T00:02:00.000-04:00Well, that's the dumbest thing I've read today. I...Well, that's the dumbest thing I've read today. If you try a little harder, maybe you can attain dumbest of the week.lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-86163611643917436162009-04-24T21:58:00.000-04:002009-04-24T21:58:00.000-04:00If we have lost our moral bearings, as the ONE ins...If we have lost our moral bearings, as the ONE insists, he will release the full memo, so we can make an informed moral evaluation of the techniques employed and the outcomes that resulted. He will not change the subject and throw some more pictures at his screaming caged monkees. But Cheney is in his head.flymorgue2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10562949312523535811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-9745467323911038212009-04-24T10:57:00.000-04:002009-04-24T10:57:00.000-04:00The glass is filling up. Not slopping over the ri...<A HREF="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/24/aclu-defense-department-to-release-abuse-photos-2/" REL="nofollow">The glass is filling up</A>. Not slopping over the rim and haltingly, but it's still wildly better than hiding the glass in an undisclosed location the way the Bushists did.lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-26805540628708185752009-04-24T10:07:00.000-04:002009-04-24T10:07:00.000-04:00Yeah, a banana republic is where the rule of law d...Yeah, a banana republic is where the rule of law doesn't matter, and sufficiently motivated banana Republicans can redefine any word they want to exculpate themselves of any future legal consequences. And their dishonest defenders will blatantly quote-mine and then defend that with some weak bullshit.lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-78287519044878822792009-04-24T01:04:00.000-04:002009-04-24T01:04:00.000-04:00>which strongly suggests you chose to break tha...>which strongly suggests you chose to break that sentence...<br /><br />Another tired Andrew Sullivan ploy (a 'Sullied'?). That's exactly what I did. And according to the ACLU, "Cheney is correct"!!! And let me know when the glass is all full. We won't prosecute the CIA, but perhaps Bush official who the CIA asked for legal advice. What a fucking banana republic when we throw the previous administration in jail for detailed legal advice. I hope we fill that glass by putting Pelosi in the dock to answer once and for all what she knew and when she knew it.globeisatrocioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10920803265187006386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-82695108905401428412009-04-23T18:26:00.000-04:002009-04-23T18:26:00.000-04:00"... but disclosure should be comprehensive." Thi..."... but disclosure should be comprehensive." This follows <I>directly</I> after your quote, which strongly suggests you chose to break that sentence where you did in order to make it appear to say something it doesn't.<br /><br />The ACLU's point is <I>exactly</I> the point I made independently on a previous thread. Cheney is a master at releasing just the part of the truth that makes him look good, hiding the rest from peons like us. Let's have a representative release that doesn't compromise sources and methods. Well, <I>legal</I> sources and methods, anyway.<br /><br />Obama's promise is half-full. You're just too self-blinded to see that.lovable liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616294696912710046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167210975362071658.post-77856246105436140862009-04-23T09:20:00.000-04:002009-04-23T09:20:00.000-04:00The following can be attributed to Jameel Jaffer, ...The following can be attributed to Jameel Jaffer, Director of the ACLU National Security Project:<br /><br />"Mr. Cheney is correct to propose that the public should have more information about the CIA's torture program...(rest <A HREF="http://www.aclu.org/safefree/torture/39422prs20090421.html?s_src=RSS" REL="nofollow">here</A>)<br /><br />Of course I have chopped the quote and the ACLU, being the ACLU, has to go on to hit Cheney, but this shows at least they accept his premise that we don't know what we don't know, and Obama's promise of transparency remains empty.<br /><br />KSM, LA library towers. Redacted by Obama. Nuff said.globeisatrocioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10920803265187006386noreply@blogger.com